How to Value the Stock Market

Is the Stock Market Overvalued?

My opinion is yes. This post will explain how I came to this conclusion. Thanks to reader Bricks for bringing up this topic.

We’ll be looking at the S&P 500 because it’s a popular index and there’s a lot of data available for it. 🙂 This index basically represents a basket of 500 large publicly traded companies in the United States. We can analyze the following 7 metrics to determine how cheap or expensive the market is. And naturally each of these ratios below can be applied to individual stocks as well. 😉

  1. Trailing P/E ratio
  2. Forward P/E ratio
  3. Forward P/S ratio
  4. Price vs Forward Earnings
  5. Shiller P/E Ratio
  6. Operating Margins
  7. EV / EBITDA ratio

Useful Ratios to Value the Stock Market

1) P/E Ratio – The price to earnings ratio, or sometimes known as the trailing P/E ratio or TTM P/E ratio, is a popular measurement to help determine the valuation of stocks. A low P/E ratio signals a cheap valuation. Historically the P/E ratio of stocks in both Canada and the U.S. hover between 10 to 20 most of the time. However, as of today the P/E ratio of the S&P 500 index is about 22, which signals it is overpriced relative to the norm. (image source)

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2) Forward P/E Ratio – Unlike the trailing P/E ratio, the forward P/E ratio uses projected future earnings. Of course nobody knows how much money companies will make in the future, but this metric provides a sentiment of how profitable the market feels about the next few earnings seasons. According to a FactSet report, the forward P/E ratio of the stock market is 16.5, which is above the long-term average of 14.2. So based on this data stocks are currently about 16% more expensive than what they should be.

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3) Forward P/S Ratio – The price to sales ratio compares the total market value to revenue. It usually moves in the same direction as the P/E ratio but can provide a smoother, more accurate depiction of the market’s valuation (see yellow line in chart above.) This ratio is currently over 1.6x for the S&P 500, which suggests the market is overpriced, even compared to 2008 levels.

4) Price Change vs Forward Earnings Change– The price of the stock market is mainly determined by its future profitability. But recently the price has diverged away from future expected earnings which suggests stock prices are too high.

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Notice what happened after the last time price diverged higher from the forward expected EPS in 2006 and 2007. 🙁

According to John Butters, senior earnings analyst at FactSet, for the first quarter of 2016 it appears 92 companies have issued negative EPS (earnings per share) guidance and only 26 companies have issued positive EPS guidance. This depicts a rather bearish outlook. However, stock prices have not come down nearly enough to reflect these estimates. 😕

5) Shiller P/E Ratio – Also known as the P/E 10 Ratio, this ratio measures the price of the market to its average earnings from the past 10 years. Unlike the regular P/E ratio, the P/E 10 ratio is less prone to wild swings in any one year because it uses a 10 year moving average of earnings. 🙂 The market is currently trading slightly above 25x using this metric. This is abnormally high because over the last century there has only been 3 other times when the ratio has gone above 25x.

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6) Operating Margins – When margins are squeezed companies will find it harder to increase profits since they are making less money on each unit of item or service sold. Combined with lower earnings forecast mentioned in point #4 above, a decreasing operating margin suggests companies should expect to see slower future growth.

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7) EV / EBITDA ratio – The Enterprise Value (EV) is equal to: Market Cap + Total Debt + Preferred Stock + Minority Interest – Cash. The Enterprise Value to EBITDA ratio accounts for the market’s debt level. With so many corporations issuing debt to buy back stock or take over smaller companies, it’s important to keep an eye on their overall debt liabilities. Much like the P/E ratio, the higher the EV/EBITDA ratio, the more expensive the market is. Currently this ratio sits at 11.5x, which is quite high by historical standards.

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These ratios outlined above are not perfect indicators by themselves, but together they paint a generally accurate picture of what’s happening in the markets now. The key takeaway is that the stock market is currently overvalued.

But that being said, I don’t plan to sell any of my stock holdings. Just because a market is overbought doesn’t mean it will correct soon. The housing market in Toronto has seen increased home prices for pretty much 20 years in a row and it’s still climbing, lol. It’s hard to explain why, but this picture says it all. ?

With higher than average valuations, and potentially disappointing earnings in the coming quarters, it’s easy to see why investors like myself are apprehensive about the stock market’s near future. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a 10% or 20% pullback later this year. But of course, nothing is guaranteed. We should continue to plan our investments based on our risk tolerance and time horizon. 🙂

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Random Useless Fact:

Most people cannot tell if this cat is going upstairs or downstairs.

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Josh
03/28/2016 9:28 am

I personally have felt that the stock market has been overvalued for several years now, especially since savings accounts & money markets have been lackluster for a better choice of words. Where else can you get a decent return on your money, other than peer lending platforms, etc? The average Joe puts money in the stock market because it’s easy & we’ve all been conditioned to do so with retirement accounts & the countless marketing efforts of the various investment houses.

Thanks for the stats, I’ve been interested in this but have never looked into it.

Anon
Anon
03/28/2016 11:32 am
Reply to  Josh

“The average Joe puts money in the stock market because it’s easy & we’ve all been conditioned to do so with retirement accounts & the countless marketing efforts of the various investment houses.”

This.

Vivianne
Vivianne
03/29/2016 1:31 pm

No fair, bro! You’re trying to get us “average Joe” sellin’ so you can get it for cheap! I ain’t seein’ you sellin’ . Haha

There is always oversold stocks or overbought stocks. Something like GIS, NOC, JNJ you always see the PE over 20.

I’ve been selling my positions to fund my rental property in my hometown. I still like these quality stocks. Even when the market was down 10%, my return would only be down 5% due to dividends, and reinvesting dividend. When you don’t sell and just look at the growth of dividend strickly, you don’t see that you lose any money or some stock are overvalued. Jason Fieber says, he’ll earn $10k this year, it’s doesn’t matter how the market perform as long as he reinvest that $10k, next year it’ll be $10.4k and so on.

The market has corrected some as some oil and gas are down 50-70%. I use Walmart and American Express as indicators, they are still down 30%.

Mr. WRI is holding all cash hoping another March 2009, it’s probably not going to happen unless there is a big catastrophe happen on American soil.

TheEighthDigit
TheEighthDigit
03/30/2016 9:31 am

The problem when comparing with historical data is that you don’t take the context into account.

I think the current prices are driven by the low interest rate.

A P/E of 25 might look like crap if you can buy a 6% governement bond but with today’s rate the game has change.

A 10 years Ontario bound will pay you 2.35%. Vanguard VCN ETF will give you are 2.68% yield on the dividend alone and you have growth potential.

I don’t think stock valution will go back to normal until the interest rate also goes back to normal.

Phil
Phil
03/30/2016 9:59 am

I don’t believe the Canadian stock market is overvalued… The US market, I feel is getting there. The problem I see is that the money currently seems to be flowing to companies with higher than typical debt loads. Arguably the companies I’ve been investing with seem to be cheap in the grand scheme of things and I will substantiate that with the returns I get. I guess if you invest in the market, you need to know what the market is doing, but I invest in companies, so I really care not what the overall market is doing, because if my research turns up a good company, it’s a good company… lots of inside ownership, good ROI, reasonable growth both organic and through M&A, and most importantly, low debt or proven history of good value return for the use of debt. Also, how has it done against similar companies it competes with. – Cheers

Phil
Phil
03/31/2016 11:26 am

You might be interested in this then… http://www.investorsfriend.com/tsx-valuation/ . It’s from last fall, but an interesting read if you care about the overall market. I like reviewing articles of this sort in 5 years to see how good the prediction was or wasn’t… Bottom line as i said, i could care less, I’m looking for good companies that are growing, because good companies make money in good and bad times… think PBH, CCL, CSU, BYD.UN or DH. That said I like some riskier ones like PHO, AYA, BAD and CXR, all of which I more trade the highs and lows of their trading cycles, so not necessarily hold them long, but if their is a drop, buy, make 15-20% and wait for the next cycle … It’s a game and we all have our strategies. In the end if you can make money at it, it’s worth doing. 😉 – Cheers

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xyz from Financial Path
05/10/2016 11:35 am

great, in-debt article, it really says IT ALL.

Sigitas
02/16/2023 2:36 am

Hello, Liquid Independence,

I loved the article! You used the most important ratios, that is really great.

However, I see that you have not updated the numbers for a while. Recently I wrote a post about the same thing and even 7 years later I came to the same conclusion as you have,